Legislature(1997 - 1998)
03/25/1997 09:03 AM Senate FIN
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SB 68 TASK FORCE ON PRIVATIZATION
SENATOR DONLEY MOVED to RESCIND previous committee
action of reporting out CSSB 68(FIN). Without
objection, the action was rescinded. SENATOR DONLEY
MOVED to ADOPT CSSB 68(FIN). It was ADOPTED without
objection. SENATOR DONLEY MOVED Amendment #4. Without
objection, Amendment #4 was ADOPTED. SENATOR DONLEY
MOVED Amendment #3. Senators Torgerson and Adams
objected. A vote was taken and the amendment failed by
a 5 to 1 vote. SENATOR ADAMS MOVED CSSB 68(FIN) from
committee with individual recommendations and an
updated fiscal note, then WITHDREW his motion. SENATOR
DONLEY MOVED to RESCIND previous action of failing to
adopt Amendment #3. COCHAIR PEARCE objected. SENATOR
DONLEY WITHDREW his motion to rescind. SENATOR ADAMS
renewed his motion to move the bill from committee.
Without further objection, CSSB 68(FIN) was REPORTED
OUT with new fiscal notes from Legislative Affairs
Agency (17.9), Office of Management and Budget
(indeterminate) and Office of the Governor
(indeterminate).
COCHAIR SHARP explained that the bill had been reported out
of committee on 3-21-97 but there had been a difference
between the actual amendment and what the drafter put in the
CS, so he wanted to bring it back before committee for
clarification.
SENATOR DONLEY MOVED to RESCIND previous committee action of
reporting out CSSB 68(FIN). Without objection, the action
was rescinded.
SENATOR DONLEY commented that he had spoken with SENATOR
PARNELL about his concern. He explained that the specific
amendment adopted previously dealt with modifying the number
of members of the task force. The amendment draft sent over
by Legal Services was different than what they intended to
draft. The proposed CS before the committee reflects the
actual motion to Section 2, page 2. COCHAIR SHARP stated
for clarification that the confusion was over page 2, lines
6-7, and that the proposed CS was the correct version.
SENATOR DONLEY concurred, adding that it was what had been
discussed and voted on.
SENATOR DONLEY MOVED to ADOPT CSSB 68(FIN). It was ADOPTED
without objection. SENATOR DONLEY MOVED Amendment #4. He
explained that he and SENATOR PARNELL developed the
language. Under the CS, the task force selects a chair and
vice-chair from among its members on page 2, line 14. That
would be deleted and replaced with co-chairs, one of which
would be selected by the Senate President and one by the
House Speaker. They both thought that with past experience
with the Long Range Financial Planning Commission it would
be a good idea to keep the legislature more active in it and
have more direct control. COCHAIR SHARP called for
discussion or objection. There being none, Amendment #4 was
ADOPTED.
SENATOR DONLEY MOVED Amendment #3. It would adopt a new
fiscal note to fund the additional public member proposed in
the CS and a full-time staff person to carry out the duties
of the task force from July 1, 1997 to December 1, 1998.
Senators Torgerson and Adams objected. SENATOR ADAMS
opposed the additional staff position, as did SENATOR
TORGERSON, who added that he would rather hire a contractual
facilitator rather than a staff person.
A roll call vote was taken on the MOTION to adopt Amendment
IN FAVOR: Donley
OPPOSED: Torgerson, Phillips, Adams, Pearce, Sharp
And so, the MOTION FAILED (1-5).
COCHAIR SHARP called attention to the $17.9 thousand fiscal
note from Legislative Affairs Agency and noted it
accommodated the additional member. He invited additional
comments or amendments to SB 68 and there were none.
SENATOR ADAMS MOVED CSSB 68(FIN) from committee with
individual recommendations and an updated fiscal note.
SENATOR DONLEY reiterated his position that for the task
force to be effective it needed personnel. He referred to
significant staff cuts taken by the legislature and appealed
to the committee to rescind their action in failing to adopt
Amendment #3.
SENATOR ADAMS WITHDREW his motion at the request of the
Cochair.
SENATOR DONLEY MOVED to RESCIND previous action of failing
to adopt Amendment #3. COCHAIR PEARCE objected and spoke to
her objection. She appreciated the concerns and agreed that
to be credible, complete and have integrity, the task force
would need good staff with excellent writing and researching
skills. It was her belief that there existed latitude
within the legislative budget to provide staffing without
the need to attach a fiscal note to the bill. She
acknowledged inconsistencies in the past regarding fiscal
notes attached to task force bills, but noted that in the
past two years, the leadership of both houses stepped
forward to provide adequate staffing. She believed there
were adequate funds in the budget to do so again, if needed.
She added that Legislative Finance, Legislative Research,
and Legal Services staff were underutilized during the
interim, and the task force could benefit from some of their
skills and availability.
SENATOR ADAMS agreed and added that Legislative Council
could also get someone on contract.
SENATOR DONLEY WITHDREW his motion to rescind. SENATOR
ADAMS renewed his motion to move the bill from committee.
Without further objection, CSSB 68(FIN) was REPORTED OUT
with new fiscal notes from Legislative Affairs Agency
(17.9), Office of Management and Budget (indeterminate) and
Office of the Governor (indeterminate).
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